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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lowlay&quot; is someone else&#039;s product - mine is the Logical Lay System. To answer your question - I cannot recall a single occasion when I have altered a lay bet because the field has dropped below 9 runners. Of course, you have to be sensible because if there were a large number of non-runners and they were mainly the more favoured horses, then there is a much better chance that your lay will win.

Much also depends on whether you have already placed the lay bet when the non-runners are declared. If you have not made a bet, then it might be sensible to miss out the race. But if you have placed the lay, then the odds may drop so that you could not cancel the lay without losing money. In that situation you might as well let the bet stand.

I have already placed a lay in this evening&#039;s race  and will not be altering it.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lowlay&#8221; is someone else&#8217;s product &#8211; mine is the Logical Lay System. To answer your question &#8211; I cannot recall a single occasion when I have altered a lay bet because the field has dropped below 9 runners. Of course, you have to be sensible because if there were a large number of non-runners and they were mainly the more favoured horses, then there is a much better chance that your lay will win.</p>
<p>Much also depends on whether you have already placed the lay bet when the non-runners are declared. If you have not made a bet, then it might be sensible to miss out the race. But if you have placed the lay, then the odds may drop so that you could not cancel the lay without losing money. In that situation you might as well let the bet stand.</p>
<p>I have already placed a lay in this evening&#8217;s race  and will not be altering it.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: gassygreg</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>gassygreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, Nothing to do with the previous discussion but a quick question about your lowlay system.
One of the races at epsom tonight has a non runner reducing the field to eight, 
Will you be laying or not???????
Thanks.
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, Nothing to do with the previous discussion but a quick question about your lowlay system.<br />
One of the races at epsom tonight has a non runner reducing the field to eight,<br />
Will you be laying or not???????<br />
Thanks.<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I can see your point of view, you need to appreciate that it is because people stay within their comfort levels that they never achieve anything worthwhile. This is not something confined to betting but is relevant to everyday life. 

How many people have you heard complain &quot;Oh I wish I could change my life - I really hate my 9-to-5 job&quot; (Or words to that effect). But when you give them a list of things they could do to radically improve their life (eg do part-time study; train for a new career; become self-employed), they then start moaning &quot;Oh I couldn&#039;t do that because.....&quot; (what invariably follows is a list of feeble excuses). What they really mean is that their humdrum life is actually quite comfortable and they are sh**-scared about taking a risk.

But all successful people in life know that it was going outside their comfort-zone that gives them the greatest challenges - and the greatest rewards- in life.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I can see your point of view, you need to appreciate that it is because people stay within their comfort levels that they never achieve anything worthwhile. This is not something confined to betting but is relevant to everyday life. </p>
<p>How many people have you heard complain &#8220;Oh I wish I could change my life &#8211; I really hate my 9-to-5 job&#8221; (Or words to that effect). But when you give them a list of things they could do to radically improve their life (eg do part-time study; train for a new career; become self-employed), they then start moaning &#8220;Oh I couldn&#8217;t do that because&#8230;..&#8221; (what invariably follows is a list of feeble excuses). What they really mean is that their humdrum life is actually quite comfortable and they are sh**-scared about taking a risk.</p>
<p>But all successful people in life know that it was going outside their comfort-zone that gives them the greatest challenges &#8211; and the greatest rewards- in life.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: kane57</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>kane57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally am not comfortable with laying at odds 2.0, irrespective of strike rate.   i&#039;m happy with my current methods and comfortable with my current risk appetite.    Maybe that is the point i&#039;m trying ot make:  Irrespective of whether or not HP is successful, we all have a comfort level and HorsePower operates a system that sits outside my comfort level.    

That is an important point that many gamblers / investors do not appreciate.  Comfort levels / personal risk appetites. I&#039;m sure I could right an eBook about this topic......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally am not comfortable with laying at odds 2.0, irrespective of strike rate.   i&#8217;m happy with my current methods and comfortable with my current risk appetite.    Maybe that is the point i&#8217;m trying ot make:  Irrespective of whether or not HP is successful, we all have a comfort level and HorsePower operates a system that sits outside my comfort level.    </p>
<p>That is an important point that many gamblers / investors do not appreciate.  Comfort levels / personal risk appetites. I&#8217;m sure I could right an eBook about this topic&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I keep saying - betting (especially laying) must be viewed as a long-term activity to judge performance. What counts is the long-term strike-rate and ensuring that your average lay odds are below the break-even figure.

For example, if you had a 95% strike-rate (even with selections occurring only once every 10 days), would you really not lay selections of 7.0?

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I keep saying &#8211; betting (especially laying) must be viewed as a long-term activity to judge performance. What counts is the long-term strike-rate and ensuring that your average lay odds are below the break-even figure.</p>
<p>For example, if you had a 95% strike-rate (even with selections occurring only once every 10 days), would you really not lay selections of 7.0?</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: kane57</title>
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		<dc:creator>kane57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;This does make me think that Betfair 10 lays will be very few, and far, between&quot; and I think this serves as a warning.  If your lay selection (at 7.0) actually comes first place, then how long are you going to have to wait before you win back the loss?     

Personally, I never lay anything higher than evens.  The risk is not worth it, and there are more than enough beaten favourites on evens or less to make it worthwhile. 

Kane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;This does make me think that Betfair 10 lays will be very few, and far, between&#8221; and I think this serves as a warning.  If your lay selection (at 7.0) actually comes first place, then how long are you going to have to wait before you win back the loss?     </p>
<p>Personally, I never lay anything higher than evens.  The risk is not worth it, and there are more than enough beaten favourites on evens or less to make it worthwhile. </p>
<p>Kane.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is easy to spend a small fortune on the never-ending stream of betting systems that get released every year. It is fine to buy some of them if you have the funds for &quot;research&quot; purposes. Whilst many of these systems do not work in the long run, they can give you ideas for modifying them and creating your own system.

For example, if you have found a lay system and it really is better to use the selections as back bets rather than lay bets to make a consistent long-term profit, then use the system like that. You might also find with some systems that by applying one or more additional filters that you can make a poor system into a very good one.

This will take patience, time and effort - but that is precisely how new profitable techniques are discovered. And if you have found it yourself, then you&#039;ll know that no-one else is using it.

I much prefer placing bets manually than using a bot, because bots have a couple of major drawbacks when it comes to placing bets. The biggest problem you will encounter with a bot is getting your bet matched. It is easy to manually alter a bet to get it matched if the odds drift against the price that you had originally tried to get matched at. A bot will place a bet into the market at a specified time but cannot react if the odds move so that the bet does not get matched. This is especially true with greyhound laying where the price drifts in the few minutes before race time can be very substantial.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is easy to spend a small fortune on the never-ending stream of betting systems that get released every year. It is fine to buy some of them if you have the funds for &#8220;research&#8221; purposes. Whilst many of these systems do not work in the long run, they can give you ideas for modifying them and creating your own system.</p>
<p>For example, if you have found a lay system and it really is better to use the selections as back bets rather than lay bets to make a consistent long-term profit, then use the system like that. You might also find with some systems that by applying one or more additional filters that you can make a poor system into a very good one.</p>
<p>This will take patience, time and effort &#8211; but that is precisely how new profitable techniques are discovered. And if you have found it yourself, then you&#8217;ll know that no-one else is using it.</p>
<p>I much prefer placing bets manually than using a bot, because bots have a couple of major drawbacks when it comes to placing bets. The biggest problem you will encounter with a bot is getting your bet matched. It is easy to manually alter a bet to get it matched if the odds drift against the price that you had originally tried to get matched at. A bot will place a bet into the market at a specified time but cannot react if the odds move so that the bet does not get matched. This is especially true with greyhound laying where the price drifts in the few minutes before race time can be very substantial.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: gassygreg</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>gassygreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, It was not betfair horse power i purchased it was betting confidante, still not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, It was not betfair horse power i purchased it was betting confidante, still not good.</p>
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		<title>By: gassygreg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gassygreg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi chris, i getting quite frustrated with all these systems about at the moment, i have had free trial of a lay system and i purchased the vbetfair horse power a while back, so far if you had back there lays you would be better off by a mile!!!
i have been looking for a bot (free if i can find one) i seem to be having more luck on the dogs than the horses at the moment. Any help with the bot would be much appreciated. greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi chris, i getting quite frustrated with all these systems about at the moment, i have had free trial of a lay system and i purchased the vbetfair horse power a while back, so far if you had back there lays you would be better off by a mile!!!<br />
i have been looking for a bot (free if i can find one) i seem to be having more luck on the dogs than the horses at the moment. Any help with the bot would be much appreciated. greg</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.greyhoundlayprofits.co.uk/blog/betfair-10-review/comment-page-1#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean

Welcome to this blog where you will get honest advice and none of the over-hyped claptrap that just about all of the system sellers seem to consider essential.

A good system is certainly one that works consistently over long periods of time (years). Such systems are few and far between because anyone who has such a system would be absolutely mad to share it with anyone else. This is always the great enigma as to why system sellers actually need to sell their systems. If a system really is making thousands of pounds per week, then why would you want to sell it?

The other key problem with most systems currently on the market is that there is no real independent evidence to back up the performance claims of the system, let alone the profit claims. Screenshots are not enough (as you&#039;ll see in my video about Betfair Horse Power which clearly shows that some &quot;fiddling&quot; of figures had been taking place).

The aim of this blog and my services are to show honestly how you can make money from betting - backed up with video proof showing real bets being placed with a real Betfair account. No-one else - as far as I am aware - provides the degree of proof that I do.

I hope that you&#039;ll take the time to go through some of the posts and videos on this blog and my other websites - hopefully, it will open your eyes to how profitable betting can be with the right amount of patience, determination and sticking with a good system.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean</p>
<p>Welcome to this blog where you will get honest advice and none of the over-hyped claptrap that just about all of the system sellers seem to consider essential.</p>
<p>A good system is certainly one that works consistently over long periods of time (years). Such systems are few and far between because anyone who has such a system would be absolutely mad to share it with anyone else. This is always the great enigma as to why system sellers actually need to sell their systems. If a system really is making thousands of pounds per week, then why would you want to sell it?</p>
<p>The other key problem with most systems currently on the market is that there is no real independent evidence to back up the performance claims of the system, let alone the profit claims. Screenshots are not enough (as you&#8217;ll see in my video about Betfair Horse Power which clearly shows that some &#8220;fiddling&#8221; of figures had been taking place).</p>
<p>The aim of this blog and my services are to show honestly how you can make money from betting &#8211; backed up with video proof showing real bets being placed with a real Betfair account. No-one else &#8211; as far as I am aware &#8211; provides the degree of proof that I do.</p>
<p>I hope that you&#8217;ll take the time to go through some of the posts and videos on this blog and my other websites &#8211; hopefully, it will open your eyes to how profitable betting can be with the right amount of patience, determination and sticking with a good system.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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